“As Christians, we should fear Islamic theocracy nation more than anything. Why is DAP helping PAS to achieve it?” questioned Lee in a response to DAP supporters on the micro-blogging site.
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Saying religions other than Islam would not be tolerated under what he coined “Islamic Theocracy State” and that Islamic laws would be imposed on non-Muslims, Lee even went on to claim that it was “God’s command” to fight an “Islamic Theocracy State”
picture of Papa Gomo fucking his mother
The pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth. It is the only animal that invites its friends to have sex with its mate. In America, most people consume pork. Many times after dance parties, they have swapping of wives; i.e. many say "you sleep with my wife and I will sleep with your wife." If you eat pigs then you behave like pigs. We Indians look upon America to be very advanced and sophisticated. Whatever they do, we follow after a few years. According to an article in Island magazine, this practice of swapping wives has become common in the affluent circles of Bombay.
For the first time in 20 years, a majority of PAS’s top leadership are made up of those who don’t come from a religious education background or to use a much-misunderstood term, ulama (religious scholar).
conference that brought together the main political viewpoints now competing for ascendancy in Tunisia. Several American scholars who study transitions to democracy or Islam and politics were also there. The conference was organized by the Center for the Study of Islam and Democracy, a Washington D.C. based think tank that has been promoting democracy in the Muslim World for over a decade.
Sheikh Rashid Al-Ghannoushi was at the conference and he spoke about his vision for Tunisia and the importance of recognizing the long and enduring non-secular heritage of Muslim societies. Al-Ghannoushi, who was in exile in London, has returned to Tunisia after the Jasmine revolution, and has already made a mark as the most important voice in Tunisian politics and his movement, Al-Nahda (Renaissance) is expected to be one of the major, if not the biggest, players in the Constituent Assembly which will write the new constitution of Free Tunisia. The elections for the Constituent Assembly are scheduled for October 23, 2011.
Many secular intellectuals and politicians in Tunisia fear that Al-Ghannoushi and his movement may use the democratic process to transform Tunisia into an Islamic State and undermine the civil and political liberties of those who do not share their Islamist vision. Tunisia has made considerable strides in terms of granting women equal rights and there is a genuine fear among young women that Al-Nahda may seek to convert Tunisia into another Iran. Needless to say, Al-Nahda and its leadership denies these allegations as fear mongering, and insist that they are just another party, albeit one that places a greater emphasis on the fact that Tunisia is a Muslim country and believes that Islamic values can contribute much wisdom to political governance.
The success of Tayyib Erdogan and his Justice and Development Party (AKP) in Turkey, has given hopes to secularists that Islamist parties elsewhere too can thrive in a democratic context without undermining or endangering democracy. It has also given Islamist parties a roadmap to legitimacy. Will Al-Nahda become another AKP, or will Al-Ghannoushi subvert democracy, once he benefits from it? Everyone wants an answer to this question. The situation with the Muslim Brotherhood is more or less similar, even though the Egyptian context is much more complicated than the one in Tunisia.
Rashid Al-Ghannoushi is different from other Islamists. He has benefited from the political asylum provided by Great Britain and has lived in a liberal democracy for years and understands how it works and hopefully by now has recognized and understood its virtues. He has departed from other Islamists and has in the past argued in favor of pragmatism over ideology, rejected the idea of killing religious apostates, accepted the necessity of coalitions and expressed willingness to share power with non-Islamists. Among all Islamists before Turkeys' AKP, which actually insists that it is not an Islamist party, Rashid al-Ghannoushi comes across as the most democracy-compatible of Islamists.
But still many of his critics, especially in Tunisia are not convinced and the allegations of "double-discourse" are frequently made. The argument is that he says one thing when the secularists and the West are listening and another to his followers. Critics also insist that while he, given his unique experience and education, may genuinely be democratic and even liberal, the rank and file of Al-Nahda are not as is evidenced from the frequent undemocratic sentiments expressed by many of its youth leaders. Al-Ghannoushi concedes that his party could do better on message discipline.
During the question and answer period, I asked Sheikh Rashid the following question: Do you realize that if you win a significant share of the Constituent Assembly seats, one of your primary goals while you frame the constitution would be to protect the rights of those who did not vote for you from those who did vote for you? Will you be able to do it? Why don't you put all the fears and suspicions about your intentions to bed by releasing a draft constitution before elections? Let everyone know what Al-Nahda is striving for.
I was disappointed with his answer. I was hoping for something in the nature of -- "what a great idea, we will release a draft constitution before elections," or, "we have already thought of it and are in the process of doing just that." But all he said was that Al-Nahda was not going to the polls without a program and that one hundred and fifty university professors were currently working on drafting Al-Nahda's program. No comments on sharing what he or his party would like to see in Tunisia's constitution. Nor did he express a commitment to defending the rights of those who do not vote for Al-Nahda.
I hope that the Tunisian people demand that all political parties, Islamists and non-Islamists release a draft of the kind of constitution that they envisage for Tunisia. At the moment the political environment is full of mistrust, suspicion and even fear. A self-disclosure that effectively commits political parties to certain fundamental principles before the elections, will reduce the tension and enhance cooperation.
As the Arab Spring spread across the region, similar disclosures can help reduce suspicion of those Islamists who claim that they believe in and will work towards establishing democracies. These disclosures will also force them to commit to democratic principles before they get involved in writing constitutions.
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I should have stuck your photo above. You get the idea.
How stupid can you get? Or do you expect us be even more stupider than you, expecting us to buy your theology ? From who’s behind did you pull out this explanation – that God commands Christian to fight an Islam theocratic state?
Chua Soi Lek’s Labis flower behind?
Who is sending Muslim chaps to the Orang Asli, Sabah, Sarawak native women folk, charming them, marrying them, converting them to Islam, and then dumping them after that? The women folk, having converted, cannot return to their original religion?
Who forced Revathi to stay in a “Faith Rehabilitation Centers” when she didn’t want to remain a Muslim? Your mother, is it??!!!
Who gives benefit to the Muslim orang asli by building them brick houses; whilst the non-muslim orang asli has to remain in wood huts, right next door to his Muslim Orang Asli brother?
Who has held up Bibles and banned Allah?
Who swore in a mosque that he “never met that girl”, but is afraid to stand and face a public enquiry re: his possible role in the Mongolian Murder Mystery?
Who threatened civilians with severed cow heads?
Who damaged Indian temples?
Who caned the student for bringing non-halal food to school?
Are you so intoxicated by glue sniffing the smell emanating from Chua’s behind – what is it? Some kind of spaced out effect on your brains – cheaper than LSD is it?
Time and again you MCA butt smelling jokers keep proving that you guys are clear running dogs to UMNO.
“One of God’s command is to fight against Islamic Theocracy State,” he said.
He added that UMNO, unlike PAS, did not want to establish an “Islamic Theocracy State”.
Lee however was quick to add a ‘disclaimer’ stating that his remarks were his personal opinion.
“I never say I am against Islam but cannot accept PAS objective of Islamic Theocracy State. In fact I accept Islam as the official religion.”
“Sorry I bring this theocracy topic up. Getting out of hand. I am quitting.”
The latest remarks by Lee followed similar comments by MCA president Chua Soi Lek in August, in which he suggested Muslim-majority nations were naturally corrupt in an attempt to urge Malaysians to shun PAS.
Chua also claimed that it was UMNO’s competing with PAS over Islam which had caused the country to be trapped as a “middle income” nation for more than 10 years.
The comments drew strong reactions from both side of the political divide, and had left the one time Health minister blaming online portals Malaysiakini and The Malaysian Insider for ‘misquoting’ him.
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The pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth. It is the only animal that invites its friends to have sex with its mate. In America, most people consume pork. Many times after dance parties, they have swapping of wives; i.e. many say "you sleep with my wife and I will sleep with your wife." If you eat pigs then you behave like pigs. We Indians look upon America to be very advanced and sophisticated. Whatever they do, we follow after a few years. According to an article in Island magazine, this practice of swapping wives has become common in the affluent circles of Bombay.
PAS delegates have condemned the deafening silence of state muftis or Islamic scholars on the sex video allegedly featuring Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim, saying that their actions are blasphemous and sacrilegious.
Ipoh Barat delegate Nazri Musa said today the muftis were become the devil’s advocate by allowing Barisan Nasional (BN) to stain the country with their dirty and slanderous politics.
“The muftis must rise and put an end to this foreign culture. They must not remain mute and continue supporting this act of defaming one’s character. We go to Mecca and say that Malays are kind hearted, morally sound but look what is happening now?” he said.
The 21-minute recording was first aired to reporters at the prestigious Carcosa Seri Negara hotel in April by a man who identified himself as “Datuk T”, later identified as a group made up of businessman Datuk Shazryl Eskay, former Malacca chief minister Tan Sri Abdul Tamby Chik and former Perkasa treasurer-general Datuk Shuib Lazim.
Umno and its newspaper Utusan Malaysia have attacked PAS for defending Anwar in the sex video candal, saying the opposition leader was morally unfit to lead the pact as he is facing sodomy charges and allegations of starring in the sex clip. Anwar has denied all charges.
Nazri also questioned why the Perak mufti, Tan Sri Harussani Zakaria, has been silent on this issue.
“The Perak mufti gave a religious ruling on poco-poco but he has not said anything on this issue. Why are they so silent? They are like opportunist and satan,” he said.
Harussani had said the poco-poco dance was haram as it contained elements of Christianity and soul worshipping.
Another delegate from PAS pusat, Mohamed Hanipa Maidin said Islam teaches its followers that writing false accusation was more dangerous than physical harm.
He also warned the public should not be gullible in BN using Islam to make the sex video acceptable among the Muslim community.
“They will use three ways to make us believe in the sex video. First, they swear on Allah’s name then they will swear on the Quran and finally they will make the oath at the mosque. When the Malays see this then they will think that the video must be true,” he said.
The delegates were supporting a motion tabled by Dewan Ulama to condemn the BN government for allowing pornographic material to be shown television and newspapers.
Having grown up in a world where PAS is perceived as party of sarongs and jubahs, the just-concluded muktamar has provided a refreshing view of the Islamist party that has always been stereotyped as conservative and backward.
The maturity of the delegates and message sent by their newly-elected leaders has really paved the way for the coming 13th general election.
While refusing to admit it, Umno needs to reflect on its path and the political role it aims to play in the national agenda.
The manner in which PAS conducted its election will put not only Umno to shame, but also its partner in Pakatan Rakyat, PKR.
Although there was an obvious rift between the ulamas and professionals, the delegates showed loyalty and an understanding of the party’s direction.
Despite fear of infighting, the party displayed true principles of democracy by putting faith in its members despite a general election just around the corner.
The openness of the leaders will provide strong impetus for the Malay community and the party to break away from shackles of the malignant siege mentality.
The party’s willingness to accept and understand views from other communities bodes well for both Pakatan and the country.
As the oldest party in the pact, PAS must come to the forefront and lead the federal opposition into power.
The election of veteran activists, parliamentarians, state administrators and think tank experts into the top PAS leadership has appeared to put the party on a firm war footing.
This line-up of Mohamed Sabu as the PAS deputy president and vice-presidents Salahuddin Ayub, Datuk Husam Musa and Datuk Mahfuz Omar is expected to not only stand shoulder to shoulder with allies in Pakatan Rakyat (PR) but it is said that they want to spearhead the coalition in its march to Putrajaya.
Their election perhaps speaks of the party’s changing membership and support base, and the rank-file’s desire to see the party move beyond an Islamist movement to a national-level ruling party.
And there is very little doubt about working or talking to Umno or Barisan Nasional (BN). Not only will this leadership have no truck with them, PAS’s new war cabinet fervently wants to replace Umno as the representative of Malay Muslims.
Yet despite the optimism that the new leadership could widen PAS’s public appeal, a significant number of members are uncomfortable with the shift in the voting trend.
“I wished that an ulama had won. PAS should be lead by an ulama because it is an Islamic movement,” said a Kuala Lumpur grassroots member when he heard the new line up.
For the first time in 20 years, a majority of PAS’s top leadership are made up of those who don’t come from a religious education background or to use a much-misunderstood term, ulama (religious scholar). “This is the leadership that will put the fear in Umno,” said Kelana Jaya delegate Abdul Rahman Othman. “It is a dynamic dream team for us to go into the next general election.”
The headline-grabbing personality is the very amiable new party deputy president Mohamad. A former MP, senior Pakatan leader/activist, ex-Internal Security Act detainee, popular ceramah speaker and a veteran civil disobedience insurrectionist.
Mohamad defeated incumbent Nasharudin Mat Isa and another popular challenger, Tuan Ibrahim Tuan Man for the coveted post.
Below him are three vice-presidents, each of whom has crafted huge public profiles as national parliamentary opposition leaders — Salahuddin, Husam and Mahfuz.
Of the central committee members, only six are considered “ulama” personalities. The rest of the 18 elected members are lawyers, doctors, engineers, — individuals that more reflect the majority Malay middle and working class that PAS courts.
Mohd Rashidi Hasan, a popular pro-PAS writer, explained that though delegates still wanted the ulama to be “guardians of the party”, they realised it would take more than religious scholars to beat Umno.
“PAS wants to lead Pakatan, but to do that it needs to win more Malay majority seats,” said Rashidi.
In a way, the election results are an out-growth of the sentiments that elected the new Muslimat (women’s wing) leadership, where the top three posts went to two MPs and a Senator.
“We wanted a leadership that would be able to take Muslimat forward,” said a Muslimat member from Perak, who requested anonymity.
It is a desire for PAS to move beyond Malay society’s religious set and appeal to mainstream Muslims, whose ties to the faith are basic and who are more worried about making ends meet.
Delegates however took pains to stress that the polls was not a manifestation of the “ulama vs professional” schism that has dominated media reports about PAS..
“We choose based on who we think can best perform,” said Temerloh delegate Syed Hamid Syed Mohamed.
“We want leaders who we think can raise PAS to the level of a ruling party,” he said. To get there, it needs to coordinate a united, hand-in-glove relationship with the DAP and PKR.
“Mat Sabu” as Mohamed is popularly known, brings with him an almost three decade-long legacy of working closely with DAP and PKR leaders.
He is said to enjoy a close friendship with DAP secretary-general Lim Guan Eng, which was forged when both were detained under the ISA during the 1987 Ops Lalang crack down.
Though to the public Mat Sabu is known as the jester of PAS, those who’ve worked with him say he has wide experience leading campaigns against BN policy.
“He coordinated a campaign to oppose a plan to privatise health care that was eventually dropped. He has also been at the forefront of many civil society demonstrations and actions,” said Alor Star delegate Adnan Saad.
However, Mat Sabu still has a long, difficult road ahead and one of them is convincing the more conservative members that his methods will suit PAS’s Islamist brand of politics.
At the same time, Mat Sabu and the new leadership will have cut through the mental barriers of racialism that Umno has grafted into the non-urban Malay electorate.
They may have convinced PAS members that they can bring the party forward, but the real test will be whether Mat Sabu and the new leadership can persuade Malay Muslims that it will be PAS and not Umno, that can bring the community forward.
The PAS party election may be over but the action has only just begun!
The results have caught arch rivals UMNO by surprise. PAS members have picked what many pundits have called a "battlefield line-up" for the coming 13th General Election.
Among the prominent new faces are Mat Sabu, Husam Musa and Mazlan Aliman.
The popular Mat Sabu was elected Deputy President, replacing Ustaz Nasharuddin Mat Isa (Bachok MP).
Another well-liked but soft-spoken man, Husam Musa was picked for the post of Vice-President.
The remaining two Vice-President seats saw incumbents Salahudin Ayub (Kubang Kerian MP) and Mahfuz Omar (Pokok Sena MP and also of the Saman Ekor fame) retaining their positions. Salahudin garnered the highest number of votes at 753. Husam obtained 660, while Mahfuz received 616.
Underestimated the Malay sense of fairplay
Whether they choose to admit it or not, UMNO leaders watching the PAS polls must be feeling stabs of cold fear in their hearts now.
They have badly miscalculated the Malay psyche. They tried to drive PAS back into its former shell of religious fundamentalism but PAS refused to be brow-beaten despite pressure piled by the likes of UMNO units, Perkasa and Pembela.
Suddenly, it swerved - choosing its own course. PAS has chosen a new direction for itself. It is a road that, if travelled with commitment, can finally nurse Malaysia back to health.
Prime Minister Najib Razak has no one to blame but himself. His expensively-paid but inept advisers have let him down and they will surely go down in history as the team that nearly brought Malaysia to the brink with their nonsensical dramas and evil shenanigans like Sodomy II and Datuk T Sex Video.
Whatever it is, the PAS polls show that fairy tale endings are not impossible. In the end, good prevails over evil and the meek do really inherit the earth.
The new faces of Hope for the Malay community
On Saturday, leading the change in PAS and in the Malay community, long-time activist Mat Sabu was elected Deputy President. He represents the last ray of hope for the Malays, many of whom are despairing of ever being able to break away from the soul-sapping and corruption-riddled politics of the UMNO elite.
Mat Sabu is a big personality on the ceramah or lecture circuit as he is known for his fire and brimstone speeches. But that is not only his strongpoint.
He has a good relationship with non-governmental organisations and has already issued a clarion call for PAS members to give full support to the Bersih Rally to be held on 9th July.
He stood by Penang Chief Minister, DAP's Lim Guan Eng when Guan Eng was imprisoned under the Internal Security Act for defending a minor who was allegedly raped by an UMNO leader, the former Malacca chief minister Rahim Thamby Chik also of the Datuk T sex video fame.
It is widely-believed by many in PAS that Mat Sabu, a Penangite, will be tasked to help Guan Eng defend Penang.
As for Husam Musa, he is the state assemblyman of Salor in Kelantan and also Menteri Besar Nik Aziz Nik Mat's personal aide. He is known for his expertise in economics and is in the forefront in championing the Kelantan oil royalty issue.
Oil royalties have been denied to the Kelantan state government since PAS took over in 1990 and the amount is now running into mega-billions.
A new face who garnered the highest number of votes (804) for a post in the Central Working Committee is Mazlan Aliman. He is synonymous with ANAK, an organisation that champions the cause of the FELDA settlers and fighting for their rights. Mazlan's tireless work and efforts is now given due recognition.
By electing Mazlan Aliman, it is clear PAS members hope to win over the hearts and minds of the FELDA settlers who provide a major bulk of BN's votes.
Another new face is Khalid Samad, the Shah Alam MP. Known for his moderate views and trouble-shooting skills he will be playing a big role for PAS in Selangor as UMNO is eyeing Selangor and has vowed to get back Selangor at all costs.
Former Perak Menteri Besar Nizar Jamaluddin who lost in his bid for the Vice-President post, informed Malaysia Chronicle that the immediate focus is the 13th General Election.
"Clearly, delegates want real change in PAS. They want us to work hand in hand with Pakatan Rakyat to take over Putrajaya. This is a complete 'No-No' to UMNO," said Nizar, who congratulated the winners.
A first-time VP aspirant, Nizar's prospects shine bright in the future, although he may have lost this round to Husam. Husam, who made a stab for the deputy presidency in the 2009 election, is seen as having a bit more experience as far as PAS politics is concerned.
Najib's foolish mistep
On Friday, PAS president Hadi vowed to stay in Pakatan. His decision has turned out to be the right one and the new line-up shows that the party is moving towards embracing a new all-inclusive image. These ingredients, so essential for change, are being seen for the first time in the form of the new party line-up.
The PAS party polls results is a victory for the Pakatan and a great blow to UMNO.
Najib and the UMNO elite must now realise that they have to abandon all hope of PAS joining BN. UMNO leaders have only themselves to blame for being lazy. Instead of painful reforms, they resorted to play-acting and when that didn't work, they tried the next shortcut - a marriage with PAS. Again, they were rejected.
As Najib shifts UMNO towards the right, Hadi is moving PAS to the centre.
The focus of PAS is now the Welfare State, rather than the Islamic state. Not that PAS has forsaken its raison d'etre but this is the more effective way to reach out to more Malaysians. And the need to reach out is indeed urgent after the BN's abject failure to care for the people. National bankruptcy beckons, spiralling inflation seems inescapable and the masses look set to suffer the worst of the economic pain.
Najib, who spent hundreds of millions on his 1 Malaysia slogan only to leave it hollow, must feel as foolish as the Three Stooges. But whether it is him, his wife Rosmah Mansor, former premier Mahathir Mohamad or his advisers, the buck stops with him. Such is the nature of responsibility.
Although PAS - just like DAP and PKR - will work together with BN on matters that will benefit the people, PAS has made it clear it will never join BN.
Dr Mujahid Yusof Rawa, the PAS Parit Buntar MP whose father was one of the party's early founders, opined that this is the best line-up going into the general election.
"In the era of New Politics, we must first focus on taking care of the welfare of the people more than anything else as this struggle is based on Islam," Kuala Selangor MP Dzulkefly Ahmad told Malaysia Chronicle.
Endorsement for Pakatan and Anwar
With the BN-controlled mainstream media constantly reminding the Malays that only UMNO can look after their interests, PAS would need a convincing speaker who can gain the confidence of the Malays and to counter the UMNO media.
And Mat Sabu fits the bill perfectly and perhaps that is another reason why he was elected as the No. 2 man - to convince the Malays that their interests will be taken care off should Pakatan gain control of the Federal Government.
Furthermore, Mat Sabu is well-known among the older Chinese and Indians. This is the face of the Malays that PAS wants to project to the non-Malays. Clearly Mat Sabu's mass-appeal that cuts across racial and religious lines will be a bonus to PAS and a threat to UMNO.
For PKR and Opposition Leader, Mat Sabu's election is also a huge endorsement. Contrary to the incessant trumpeting by the mainstream media and Najib himself, Malay grassroots still support Opposition Leader Anwar Ibrahim much more than Najib. To prevent Mat Sabu from winning, his enemies had labelled him as Anwar's lap-dog. But still, Mat Sabu won.
Malays want real change
The two men he triumphed against were also among the best in PAS - the extremely popular Tuan Ibrahim and the energetic Nasharudin Mat Isa. But members wanted change. It truly was as simple as that.
And this is another lesson for Najib. Stop the shenanigans. The more you bluff, the more people dislike it. Just be sincere and try do good. If that is not enough, accept your karma and stand aside for others chosen by God to finish the task. But to resort to evil as he has done so, then not only will Malaysians not forgive, the Almighty will also want an explanation!
For the first time in PAS history, the top post besides that of the President are filled with non-ulama (Islamic scholars). This historic party election heralds a new age for PAS and a new direction for the Malay community.
Indeed, pundits may have got it right - it does look like the time has come for PAS to replace UMNO.
