While use of the Arabic word for God, ‘Allah', has been a hot topic between UMNO and MCA in the country, a renowned contemporary thinker and philosopher sees discussion on the matter as having been "too simplistic"
“Component parties must accept so there would not be a debate that will set off another situation which is already calm. I am not sure why DAP and MCA have the same stand in this matter. We know this issue became a heated debate which led to an unhealthy environment.
Lim Guan Eng today said he differed strongly with Datuk Seri Dr Chua Soi Lek’s portrayal of Muslim countries as backward and corrupt nations, pointing out that the MCA president should educate himself on Islamic civilisation.
The Penang chief minister said Dr Chua should educate himself in history that the civilisation of Islam was filled not just with global empires, but also with glory in art, learning, algebra and astronomy.
“Muslim countries are suffering from the same problems suffered by India and China previously,” he said today at the launch of Caliph Umar Abdul Aziz International Integrity Conference at Eastin Hotel here.
“Only when India and China were free, independent and not dominated by imperialistic powers, were they able to realise their potential and take their place in the world stage,” he added.
Dr Chua had said yesterday that some of the most corrupt countries in the world had a Muslim-majority.
He also appeared to criticise Umno as well as PAS yesterday for using religion to compete for Malay support. Dr Chua blamed this on how the country had been trapped as a “middle income” nation for more than 10 years, claiming that the competition between the two Malay-centric parties had led to some “non-progressive policies”.
Lim said today that Muslim nations could recapture their past glories like India and China, if they were allowed to be similarly unshackled like the two countries.
Later at a press conference, Lim told reporters that Dr Chua was just trying to distract the attention from the real root of the problem, which he said was Umno.
“Don’t blame it on Islam; I think that’s not fair,” he said, adding that Dr Chua should instead ask “serious questions” to Umno on issues such as sports gambling and on “kalimah Allah”.
Opposition Leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim, who was also at the press conference, agreed with Lim.
Anwar said Dr Chua “had clearly displayed ignorance and arrogance” over his remarks.
“In my mind this is unacceptable of a party leader in the coalition,” he said, adding that leaders who wish to save the country must strive to increase their knowledge.
He also said that it was important for non-Muslims to understand the contributions of the Muslim community and vice versa.
Barisan National government is creating the malaysian charter of the the state of ISRAEL OF THE MCA,?TO CREATE their attempt to drive a wedge between THE MUSLIMS AND THE NON MUSLIMS.TO GO FOR THEIR BLOODS WORST THEN THE MAY 13 INCIDENT .
TO CREATE IF YOU DO ALL THESE GOD FORBIDDEN ACTS, YOU CAN’T CLAIM TO BE PRACTICING ISLAM SINCE THE WORD ‘ISLAM’ IS AN ARABIC WORD WHICH MEANS TO OBEY, TO FOLLOW AND TO HAVE COMPLETE OBEISANCE TO THE COMMAND OF GOD AS ORDAINED IN THE QURAN. THEREFORE IF YOU DON’T OBEY, FOLLOW OR HAVE COMPLETE OBEISANCE, AND INSTEAD DO WORLDLY SINFUL THINGS LIKE PLUNDERING PEOPLE’S MONIES, CORRUPTION AND THE LIKE, THEN YOU CANNOT BE A MUSLIM EVENTHOUGH YOU PARADE AND BRAND YOURSELF AS ONE.
UMNO’S MALAYS ARE FULL OF HYPOCRITES WHO CLAIM TO BE MUSLIMS AND PRACTICING ISLAM BUT DO AND PRACTICE ANOTHER THING. YOU FOLLOW OR ASSOCIATE WITH THEM, YOU INCUR THE WRATH OF GOD AND HELL FIRE IS SURE TO AWAIT YOU IN LIFE IN THE HEREAFTERUMNO DEPUTY PRESIDENT DATUK SERI NAJIB RAZAK SAID WE UMNO AND MCA ARE MAKING A CO-ORDINATED MOVE TO VAGARISE ISLAM IN IN PUBLIC SO THAT WE CAN WIN THIS TIME. , THE BARISAN NASIONAL CAMPAIGN WILL NOT LET GO OF THE ISSUE IN THEIR ATTEMPT TO DRIVE A WEDGE BETWEEN THE MUSLIMS AND THE NON MUSLIMS OUR POLICY IS TO DIVIDE AND RULE WE LEARNED FROM THE BRITISH. UMNO DEPUTY PRESIDENT DATUK SERI NAJIB RAZAK WAS THE LATEST BN LEADER TODAY TO HAMMER HOME THE POINT “IT IS CLEAR THAT WE HAVE A COMMON STAND, MCA IS ALLOWED TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ISLAM AS LONG AS THEY CAN DELIVER THE CHINESE VOTE THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR VICTORY I AM ONLY INTERESTED IN WINNING THIS ELECTION SO THAT NOBODY CAN SAY THAT I HAVE LOST THE PEOPLES CONFIDENCE YOU KNOW IAM THE PRIME MINISTER IN WAITING I DO NOT WANT TO END LIKE ABDULLAH . HE ALSO SAID THAT THERE WAS NO NEED FOR PAS TO EDUCATE UMNO ON HUDUD LAW.WE KNOW THAT FOR FACT THAT HUDUD IS ALREADY A LAW IN TERENGGANU, ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT ENFORCED BECAUSE OF CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES, AND THE MCA KNOW THAT FOR FACT THAT IS WHY THEY DID NOT TRY TO CHANGE THE LAW EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE IN THE TERENGGANU GOVERNMENT. THERE IS NO NEED FOR THEM TO EDUCATE UMNO WE ARE ABOVE THE LAW..“THERE IS NO NEED FOR THEM TO EDUCATE UMNO. WE ARE JUST USING THE HUDUD ISSUE FOR POLITICAL MILEAGE, I BELIEVE MANY NON-MUSLIM LEADERS ARE NOT HAPPY WITH HUDUD,” SAID THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER.THE HUDUD CONTROVERSY FIRST SURFACED WHEN A NON MUSLIM MCA LEADER COMENTED ON WHAT WAS DECUSSED AMONG THE MUSLIMS ON ISLAMIC MATTER THE MCA HAS NO CONCERN ON THIS MATTER,BUT SINCE WE GAIN POLITICAL MILEAGE WHY NOT? ZAHID SAID: “UMNO ALSO GIVES PRECEDENCE TO ISLAM”.
. MINISTER IN THE PRIME MINISTER’S DEPARTMENT DATUK SERI DR AHMAD ZAHID HAMIDI SAID THE TACTIC COULD BE DISCERNED FROM THE VARIOUS STATEMENTS, “FATWA” (EDICTS) AND MESSAGES OF A RELIGIOUS NATURE ISSUED BY TO WIN THE PEOPLE’S SUPPORT IN EVERY ELECTION.
AHMAD ZAHID WAS COMMENTING ON THE CIRCULATION OF THE “SPECIAL MESSAGE THE STAR, NST ,UTUSAN
IS MCA HELPING UMNO BY ILLUMINISING TO THE CHINESE VOTERS THE NON ISSUE HUDUD BY VAGAZISING ISLAM IN PUBLIC. SO VOTERS CAN YOU ALLOW KAFIR TO TELL US WHICH PART OF ISLAM WE SHOULD FOLLOW ,THINK THEN,LET BARSAN LOSE THEIR DEPOSITIt’s time you walk the talk. Dissolve MCA, ask all your members to join Barisan Nasional. Ask all your component party members to dissolve their party and join Barisan Nasional. Then we believe you. Make the first moveI hope Malaysians don’t have to wait for another 150 years to see a Barack Obama story in this countryMCA is raciast too
We are in this state due to MCA collusion with UMNO. MCA allowed UMNO to wave the racist flag and the keris.
If One wants Malaysians to look beyond race then get the hell out of racial parties. Make MCA multi racial.
You cannot stay in a racial pot, shackled in racial issue and then preach about non- racism.MCA, PLEASE WALK THE TALK
SEE WHO IS TALKING? MCA AND OTHER COMPONENT PARTIES IN BN ARE RACIAL AND THEY SHOULD EITHER DISSOLVE THEIR PARTIES OR MAKE IT MULTIRACIAL. EVEN PAKATAN RAKYAT PARTIES ( PKR, DAP & PAS) ARE FALLING INTO THE TRAP OF RACE AND RELIGION. IF PR WANTS TO BE A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE TO BN THEY MUST, FIRST, GET RID OF THEIR AFFINITY TO RACE AND RELIGION AND FIGHT FOR ALL MALAYSIANS, IRRESPECTIVE OF RACE AND RELIGION. I AM REALLY WORRIED ABOUT PAS AND SOME OF THEIR ACTIONS. IF PAS WANTS TO PORTRAY AS MULTIRACIAL AND MULTIRELIGIOUS THEY MUST RECRUIT DIRECT MEMBERSHIP AND NOT THROUGH PAS SUPPORTERS CLUB. ISLAM DOESN’T DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN RACE AND RELIGION. ISLAM HAS GREATER RESPECT FOR OTHER RELIGIONS. YOUR RELIGION IS YOURS AND MY RELIGION IS MINE. ISN’T CORRECT? I HAVE GREATER RESPECT FOR TOK GURU NIK AZIZ AND I HOPE HE WILL PERSUADE PAS LEADERS TO CHANGE THE PARTY’S CONSTITUTION TO ALLOW THE PARTY TO RECRUIT DIRECT MEMBERSHIP. DON’T CONFUSE PEOPLE AS THOUGH YOU HAVE AN HIDDEN AGENDA. PAS, PLEASE WALK THE TALKAmerican Dream finally becomes reality. How about Malaysian Dream?
1- You have all kind of ‘Chinatown’ across the globe bcoz you cannot assimilate with the local.
2- You look down (or maybe jealous) on Muslim men who are polygamist but you have bunch of mistresses yourself
3- You lack conscience in making money by printing all kind of fake items and sell them without remorse
4- Your female type have part time job by spreading their leg to the highest bidder and the male one like to be pimp
5- You always F**k first before you get married and contribute to Malaysian yearly bastard conceive out of wedlock
6- Your wife look really sad after they turn 40
7- You eat shit and you even dare to criticize Islam (we dont think frog is delicacy)
8- You rarely contribute your wealth to society. Islam make it mandatory for its full 1.7 billion population (this size is in fact more or about the same as whole Chinese population) to contribute at least RM 5 yearly
9- We invented Calculus you bitch
How to put trust into an immoral leader to lead anything or anyone, other than the greedy pariah slave dogs in MCA or Malaysian Corrupted Agency !
Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin have hit the jackpot in your various Yes classifications that are truly UnIslamic. In fact this is what our noble Tok Guru said when umno is the dark and vile evil syaitan as umno is the pillar of the above Yes’s. One only needs to look and study these vile umno scumbag leaders, their life styles and the lifestyle of their family, friends and cronies and one will notice all the Yes’s applying on them. Yet these scumbags despite the revelation of all their excesses. lust, greed and abuse of power and flamboyant display of wealth and expensive lifestyle still have the audacity to prented to pious muslims. Isn’t munafiq the right word to describe these rodents who have given a bad name to our noble Prohpet’s Muhammad’s true compassionate and ever loving Islam.Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin gave a stern warning today to MCA over its appeal for the government to rescind the ban on non-Muslims use of the word “Allah”, after Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein admitted that the decision was regrettable.The Deputy Prime Minister said that MCA must accept the decision of the government and should not trigger another debate on the word “Allah.”Umno leaders fired back today at MCA president Datuk Seri Dr Chua Soi Lek for accusing them of using religion to compete with PAS for Malay support, warning him that he risked triggering an adverse reaction from the Malay community.Dr Mahathir must be damn upset to see so many Malaysians embrace and cheer for the country he hates so much? Afterall, how can a totalitarian understand what democracy is? Imposed the Umno election quota himself and now complains about the quota as saying it is undemocratic. Clearly flip-floping is a culture in Umno for decades. Anyway, when any leader, be he/she from BN or PR, speaks of something right, we should show some appreciation. We should feel glad to see some changes coming from BN too. Afterall, reform and changes is what we want for our beloved country, isnt it?And now, they can even hide behind the Royal Commission. The Royal Commission of deception is not supposed to investigate the way how TBH was killed.There is always a place for the shielded culprits to hide.Who is responsible in making Malaysia unsafe? The authority.Malaysia is going to the umnodogs.Muhyiddin also questioned MCA’s intention in sharing the same platform with DAP.“So that situation should not be triggered again, let the matter be solved in a proper manner. The comments made must consider the interests of the general public and not the interests of certain groups, be it political or from the Administration,” he told reporters after chairing a committee meeting on youth development at Perdana Putra here.Hishammuddin said his predecessor in the Home Ministry should not have banned the word “Allah” from being used by the Catholic Church and added that the decision will continue to haunt his ministry “for a very long time.”“In this Ministry, it is a zero-sum game. We are [now] in an uncharted landscape which will haunt us for a very long time.“We should have let the sleeping dogs lie. It was triggered by those that believe that the word ‘Allah’ should not be used in Sabah and Sarawak,” Hishammuddin said during the Fourth Annual Malaysian Student Leaders Summit.Yesterday, MCA urged Hishammuddin to use his authority to rescind the ban on the non-Muslims use of the word “Allah” and said that Barisan Nasional (BN) must stop the “Allah” ruling from further polarising the public.MCA added that that nobody can claim monopoly over the word “Allah” and added that “no confusion arises when one’s spiritual conviction is strong.”
The Catholic Church has since taken the home minister to court early last year, challenging the ban slapped on its weekly newspaper.The Herald, after the ministry threatened to revoke its annual publishing permit.GENDER SEGREGATION“Dr Chua needs to stop doing this. He is shifting racial politics into religious politics.“This is very dangerous. People might start blaming Islam because of what he said… they might blame Islam and say that corruption in the country is rampant because of the religion,” said Umno’s Datuk Seri Dr Mohd Khir Toyo, who is also the former Selangor mentri besar.Dr Chua, the MCA president, appeared to criticise Umno as well as PAS today for using religion to compete for Malay support.He also blamed this on how the country had been trapped as a “middle income” nation for more than 10 years, claiming that the competition between the two Malay-centric parties had led to some “non-progressive policies”.Dr Khir told The Malaysian Insider that Dr Chua’s remarks could cause unrest within the country, and disturb the “harmonic balance” created by the ruling Barisan Nasional (BN) government.”We do not want to start blaming each other, pointing fingers… this leads into religious arguments. This is dangerous,” said Dr Khir.The Selangor opposition leader said that the MCA president should instead focus on rebuilding an already fragmented MCA.“Dr Chua should look into the Chinese problems. Why is there no support from the Chinese towards BN? In Selangor, there are virtually no new registered Chinese voters.“I think Dr Chua is too influenced by western campaigns to discredit Islam as a religion. You will only end up making Malay leaders angry and more enemies,” said Dr Khir.The Umno man insisted that there was nothing wrong with Umno reaching out to Malay voters with Islam, because Islam was part and parcel of the identity of the Malay party.He dismissed Dr Chua’s remarks that Umno had become conservative in recent years.“Umno is a progressive, open party. Under BN, we allow other members to join, to contest. We give rights to other races, and make sure everyone is happy.“Islam is close to Umno, part of our life. You cannot ask for the religion to be separated from the party. It is a part of what Umno is,” said Dr Khir.Umno Kota Belud MP Datuk Abdul Rahman Dahlan argued that Umno was a party that followed the wishes of its grassroots, and it will always be the voice of the Malays.“Umno has always been the voice of the Malays. It is not about what Umno wants really… we are looking at the Malay heartbeat, sometimes they want Umno to be concerned with more religious issues,” said the Umno man.Abdul Rahman told The Malaysian Insider that Umno was neither liberal or conservative, and that it only responding to the needs of grassroot supporters.“Umno is only reacting to the wishes of the grassroots. If the grassroots want Umno to be more liberal, we will be as we have been. But if there is a message that they want us to focus on religious issues, then we will do that too,” he said.Abdul Rahman warned of the dangers of not protecting Malay interests, stressing that the majority race needed to be appeased to avoid any disruption to the existing stability of the country.“It is important that the Bumiputera majority do not feel restless… they need to be contented, not threatened.“1 Malaysia is already in place to ensure that everyone has a place in the country,” he said.Meanwhile Perkasa’s Dr Zubir Harun warned Dr Chua not to politicise the issue of religion as it might lead to Malay voters rejecting BN in the next general elections.“Chua Soi Lek should instead concentrate on rebuilding and rebranding MCA so that the party could get more Chinese voters.“MCA should not politicise Islam because the party will alienate Malay voters and affect Barisan Nasional’s chances in the general election. MCA should also stop using the Allah issue to gain the support of non-Malay voters,” Dr Zubir told The Malaysian Insider.Dr Chua had claimed that the competition between PAS and Umno had led to some “non-progressive policies” formed, resulting in Malaysia being trapped as a middle-income nation for the past 10 years.His strong words suggest that MCA, the second largest party in the ruling coalition, is no longer content to be Umno’s junior partner.The party recently came under criticism from Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin, the Umno deputy president, for apparently sharing DAP’s view that the “Allah” ban should be lifted.MCA was forced to back down from its stand and its leaders were indirectly warned to back off after Muhyiddin announced the Cabinet’s directive to impose a gag order on all parties. that there is also a growing anger among MCA leaders over the recent prosecution of former party president Tun Dr Ling Liong Sik over the Port Klang Free Zone scandal.
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